Boycott threat by fire chiefs

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MULTI-MILLION pound plans for a single fire control centre for the whole of the South West are on the brink of collapse, with fire chiefs in the region warning they will not move to it if public safety is put at risk.

The taxpayer is shelling out almost £155,000 a month to keep the building in Taunton standing empty, amid growing doubts that it will ever open.

Fire authorities in the region warn they will not make the switch if they are forced to pick up the bill for huge over-runs. By the time it opens, it will have cost £4.5 million.

The threat of job losses is already battering morale and leading to a rise in staff sickness as workers fear for their future. Problems have already arisen in recruiting and retaining staff.

Ministers admitted that part of the problem with the much-delayed scheme was that fire and rescue services were not included in drawing up the "concept".

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Westcountry fire chiefs claim much of the technology is "becoming obsolete before it has been installed" and have questioned if there are any "real and meaningful guarantees" that there will be no further delays.

Devon and Somerset Fire Service had been due to move to the new centre in July this year but will not make the switch until May 2011. And Cornwall, originally expected to move over in June, will wait until January 2012.

Emergency calls from the whole of the South West region – from Cornwall to Gloucestershire – should eventually be answered from the single call centre, raising fears that a lack of local knowledge could put safety at risk.

Now every fire authority in the region has warned they will not "be prepared to sign up until binding commitments have been received for the financing of the balance of the regional costs throughout the lifetime of the fire control service".

Cornwall Fire and Rescue Authority (FRA) is "yet to be convinced that the move to a regional centre is in the best interests of the communities of Cornwall".

There are no assurances that the new computer systems are "up to the job" while fire authorities are "in the dark on issues which are of fundamental importance".

While many fire authorities are expected to be better off as a result of regionalistaion, some in the Westcountry will require additional "resilience" payments of tens of thousands of pounds every year.

The Government has promised to cover those costs for three years, but it is not clear where the money will come from beyond that. In evidence to MPs, Cornwall FRA added: "There are still concerns that clarity on the financial detail, and ongoing financial commitment post-cutover, is needed before the FRA can make any informed decision on whether the service will migrate to fire control."

Devon and Somerset Fire Authority said in its corporate plan for the next three years that it was "continuing preparations" for the move into the regional control centre, including to "ensure that the needs of the public will be met".

"Although this will bring some considerable investment in technology, we are mindful of the impact that this change will have on our staff and will do all that we can to minimise the understandable anxiety that this change presents," it added.

Coun Bernard Hughes, chairman of the authority, said he thought the project could go ahead but only if additional costs were not imposed on council taxpayers at a time of public spending cuts.

And Dorset Fire Authority said it "will not agree to move its operations into the regional control centre, either in principle or in practice, until it is satisfied that both operational and financial requirements have been met". The Fire Officers' Association warned of "feelings of bitterness or resentment over the way that they or their colleagues been treated".

Ministers are now being urged to draw up a "plan B" if talks collapse and Westcountry fire chiefs refuse to relocate. The Conservatives have said there is "a growing case for this whole project to be shelved".

Coun Brian Coleman, of the Local Government Association, said council chiefs had been "broadly supportive" but had "now moved to a position of hostility and against the project in principle". He said fire authorities "have come to the view that the project has been delayed for too long and they have serious doubts whether it is ever going to work".

However, John Bonney, president of the Chief Fire Officers Association, said talk of abandoning regionalisation was dangerous. He added: "To blithely say 'Scrap the project' will leave a number of fire rescue services high and dry."

Fire minister Shahid Malik admitted the project had been "contentious for a whole host of reasons" and it "did not start off too well" but the Government remained "absolutely committed" to the concept.

However, one of the problems was the fire and rescue service was not "engaged" in developing the concept. "The truth is that once we started to engage with fire and rescue services, it then became apparent their needs had not been catered for in a 100 per cent fashion.

"We can see the national resilience that it will bring and deliver. We know that will benefit both firefighters and indeed the wider community as well."

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    by TimV, Pz

    Wednesday, February 24 2010, 3:29PM

    “The last decade has been marked by constitutional "tinkering" for political reasons. I cite the changes to the Upper House when no clear alternative was agreed. The changes to the role of the Lord Chancellor. The appointment of a "Supreme Court". The splitting of Home Office functions. Independent parliaments for Scotland and Wales. An ad. hoc. approach to Regional Assemblies and the abolition of two-tier local government etc. etc. At the same time national sovereignty is being transferred to a dysfunctional and enlarged European Community. In none of these has the public been allowed a voice or approval despite assurances to the contrary. The fiasco of the "Dodgy Dossier", the most flagrant "con-job" ever pulled on the British public, and on which incredibly, a decision to go to war was largely based, is typical of this Administration's approach and undermines all other achievements. Two people and their political party have dominated the political scene during this period and have demonstrated an ignorance of history and the importance of stability and continuity in constitution affairs of state. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" and "Don't change something unless you have something better to replace it" are two watch words ignored at our peril. A third "That no politician, however exulted, should be allowed near a pencil and the back of an envelope" is another that could usefully be included in the next Queen's Speech.”

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    by L Smith, Cornwall

    Wednesday, February 24 2010, 12:26PM

    “SCRAP the entire project. The longer we linger, the more money goes down the drain.”

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    by Mark stone, delabole

    Wednesday, February 24 2010, 11:37AM

    “http://db.cornwall.gov.uk/fbnews/info/details.asp?ID=12588.

    Hope this link is not true as camelford doesnt have a fire station to my knowledge.
    just imagine how bad it would be if fire control was moved to taunton when the control centre in cornwall have no idea about the fire stations that do or do not exist in the county”

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    by Mike, Devon

    Wednesday, February 24 2010, 8:31AM

    “What a fiasco. Surely some one in authority should get hold of this and deal with it once and for all. All that is happening is money is pouring into a black hole. Come on get it sorted.”

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    by Cyanotic, St. Ives

    Wednesday, February 24 2010, 1:36AM

    “The whole regionalisation of services is driven by the EU and its EU of the regions policy and British governments of whatever colour have to carry out the EU's demands regardless of the wishes of the people in those areas affected. Britain ceased to be a democracy the moment we signed up to the EU.”

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    by Steve Redpath, Delabole

    Tuesday, February 23 2010, 7:34PM

    “This is just another example of the present government putting lives at risk in order to cut spending, but, ironically and as usual, they have mucked it up so much it is going to end up costing more!”

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    by Richard, Tavistock

    Tuesday, February 23 2010, 6:07PM

    “Couldn't agree more with you, Graham. Well said.”

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    by DAVE, OKEHAMPTON

    Tuesday, February 23 2010, 2:44PM

    “i am sorry to disagree but this is not just a labour problem of top down management, most company managers i have experience that have come and gone have always known better than experieced and bettter quailified personnel but are better at the verbal so gain their bonus for what, us to pick up the long term cost of their fancy ideas”

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    by Tim, Helston

    Tuesday, February 23 2010, 1:27PM

    “Fire crews are already being wrongly sent to locations where they are not the fastest appliance and are not familiar with these areas and this is due to money saving measures and inadequate software on the computers. It's only going to get worse for the public safety and fire applinaces are going to take longer to respond to incidents just to save money where the fire service uses wholetime fire fighters instead of retained fire fighters who are closer and could respond quicker.”

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    by TimV, Pz

    Tuesday, February 23 2010, 12:40PM

    “Maybe it's my age, but I am so sick of "Top-down" government, that ignores professional expertise and the wishes of the people, who then have to pick up the tab for the ensuing confusion. It has contaminated all levels of government. I place the blame squarely on a Labour Government Administration, which, for some inexplicable reason, is operating an agenda of ever more remote control, of what are local and essential services. Cornwall has become a Unitary Authority against the wishes of its residents. Plans are on-going for Devon. There are plans for a SW regional police force. Fire authorities are under pressure to amalgamate. The regional development agency, an unrepresentative body, is in charge of dispensing Government largesse, whilst nationally the Government sits on an unprecedented and growing National Debt. There is absolutely no reason why fire, police and ambulance services cannot be operated efficiently on a county basis. Nor health and a plethora of other services either, for that matter. It is critical that the people who take emergency calls and co-ordinate the response, know their organisation and the geographical area intimately. Millions have been wasted on this and other politically inspired schemes to "regionalize" the country and I cannot wait for a return to a more sensible pragmatic approach to local government services, with proper safeguards for their accounting and efficiency.”

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