Bar owner loses premises licence

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Wednesday, February 01, 2012
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A NEWQUAY bar owner was branded a "menace" and stripped of his premises licence at a fiery hearing on Thursday.

Paul Quinney, who runs Haoles Surf Club on Cliff Road, was accused of playing "thunderous" music at the venue, which regularly kept neighbours' children awake until 2.30am.

Environmental health officers told members of Cornwall Council's licensing act sub-committee that they had witnessed breaches of a noise abatement notice on three occasions last year.

Landlord John Weller labelled Mr Quinney a "menace" and a "rogue licensee", claiming he intended to drive out tenants in the four flats above the club.

But Mr Quinney, 38, who was not present at the meeting, has since hit back at the criticism saying he lost more than £80,000 in the failed business.

He told the Cornish Guardian he had not breached the terms of his licence and had been hounded out of the premises.

Mr Quinney said: "Rogue licensee? I don't even know what that's supposed to mean. He [Mr Weller] said he would try to help me, not push me out of business.

"Yes, I was trying to get some of them out because they were viciously trying to get us closed down. Some of them kept complaining even after they had moved out.

"As far as being a menace is concerned, I was just trying to run my business under the licence I was issued. Like any businessman, I was trying to make money."

On November 25 last year environmental health officers confiscated all of the sound equipment at Haoles, including six speakers.

The Cornish Guardian reported at the time that Mr Quinney had been reduced to playing music from an iPod in a pint glass on the bar.

Speaking at last week's meeting, environmental health officer Kevin Brader listed the occasions when officers spoke to Mr Quinney about excessive noise at the bar.

He told committee members: "It is evident that … the licensee has had nothing but a disregard for the conditions of the licence.

"The residents above have chosen to leave the flat, in our opinion driven out by the noise coming from this premises."

Mr Weller said: "The problem here has been one person, a rogue licensee.

"We, as landlords, contacted environmental health so we could co-operate together to remove this man.

"Never in my experience of 20 years have I ever come across anyone quite like him. The man is a menace."

Cornwall councillor Geoff Brown said he had been informed by Newquay Town Residents' Association that "thunderous" music had been keeping children awake until 2.30am.

Mr Brown said: "The licensee had repeatedly failed to recognise he was creating a problem relating to public nuisance and the wellbeing of children and he had consistently failed to put in place any remedial actions to mitigate the problem."

Police licensing officer Susanne Edwards revealed to the committee that neighbours had contacted the police eight times in 2011 to complain about the disturbance.

Following the decision to revoke Mr Quinney's licence, he told this newspaper he had already surrendered it voluntarily. Keys have been handed back to the landlord and the locks changed.

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    by Dan515

    Thursday, February 02 2012, 12:55PM

    “I am absolutely disgusted by the comments made by John Weller and the councillor Geoff Brown. I have met Mr Quinney on several occasions and he is far from a menace, he is a reasonable and understanding person.It really seems like these comments have been made to make Mr Quinney appear worse than he is. There are much cheaper ways to be a menace than put funds into a business. I have been inside the bar several times while it was open as haoles, before and after the noise restrictions. Describing the music as thunderous is ridiculous. If the music was that loud how did I manage to hold conversations without shouting. Cars going past the bar made more noise than the music inside. I would also like to know why the council did not review the area first before issuing the license, the building is not fit to have a bar downstairs and flats above. The government is trying to encourage new business startups yet this business has been squashed before its even had a chance. I wonder if our MP has anything to say about this.”

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    by sdbrindley

    Thursday, February 02 2012, 10:38AM

    “Firstly who moves into a flat above a bar with 2 kids? Hello?Eish ekse! (even if it was closed at the time..there is and was always a good chance it would reopen again.)

    Bar.. music.. End Off! Freak Chops!

    John Weller... same as oldjamaica...”

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    by oldjamaica

    Wednesday, February 01 2012, 4:42PM

    “John Weller involved? Nuf said.”

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    by Charlespk

    Wednesday, February 01 2012, 4:17PM

    “The whole building should been A3. . Sorted.”

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    by howiecornwall

    Wednesday, February 01 2012, 4:14PM

    “i have just checked and the lease for this bar is FOR SALE again..! http://tinyurl.com/7gfh5sk

    that's the flat right above it. crazy if you ask me.”

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    by howiecornwall

    Wednesday, February 01 2012, 4:00PM

    “if people move in to the flat before the bar was reopened they must have realised. it used to be a bar and it was advertised as a bar for sale across the road at starts & co, which is the same agent renting the flats, oh, and the same landlord.

    I find it really strange that neither the landlord or agent would have said anything. If they did, then why complain!? I think its all a bit unfair, the landlord can't surely expect to run a pub/club and residential in the same unit. I bet it is loud upstairs, only because its not properly sound proofed and should be an office!”

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    by cheekyman_jr

    Wednesday, February 01 2012, 3:46PM

    “I never understood people who move nearby to pubs and clubs and then complain. Surely an ounce of common sense would tell you that Pubs & Clubs = active (and often loud) nights?

    If it's the case of people who've lived there before the Surf Club was opened, well, that I can understand, but even still, it should have been dealt with during licensing.”

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    by josdave

    Wednesday, February 01 2012, 2:18PM

    “Also why would anyone move into a flat directly over a bar where there is loud music?”

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    by howiecornwall

    Wednesday, February 01 2012, 9:49AM

    “so why does the landlord market and sell a licence for a bar knowing that the self-contained flats he has created DIRECTLY above the venue would confilct. It is hard to see how the planning passed flats to be built above, surely did they not think there would be noise problems!?

    I am sure if people lived above central bar there would be loads of complaints! People would have only moved in because they could see the bar was closed below or they were told there would be no bar opened by the landlord/estate agent. mmm...”

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