Justin Lee Collins embroiled in racism row
TELEVISION comic Justin Lee Collins has become embroiled in a racism row after trying to get a Cornish band to appear on his chat show to sing Westlife songs in an exaggerated Westcountry accent.
The Bristolian comedian, notorious for his own broad accent, wanted "Cornwall's premier scrumpy and western band" the Cutlers to sing songs by the Irish boyband on his ITV2 programme in a broad patois because Westlife's manager Louis Walsh was another guest on the show.
But the band refused to take part in the "Westcountry Life" skit, deciding not to appear on the show at all, with lead singer Greg Woods branding Lee Collin's' idea "as racist as telling a joke about an Irishman or a Muslim".
Mr Woods said: "Whenever people upcountry try to portray Cornish people, they seem to set out to ridicule us. Programmes like Doc Martin make us out to be in-breds who speak with funny accents.
"To me this is as racist as telling a joke about an Irishman or a Muslim.
"Cornwall is a proud Celtic nation with a proud heritage. We were trading with Mediterranean states 4,000 years ago, when upcountry people were still wondering what a mud hut looked like.
"I would never sell my soul and that of my people for a cheap laugh for the benefit of a TV show."
The Cutlers play songs including Champion Dung Spreader and Sea of Cowpats and take a stuffed toy cow on stage with them. They are based in St Day and wear Cornish tartan waistcoats on stage.
Lee Collins, 34, (pictured right) is also a host of the raucous Sunday Night Project on Channel Four, which he co-hosts with Alan Carr.
In an e-mail to the show's production team, Mr Wood said: "You seem to think that an Irishman [Mr Walsh] would be amused by Cornish men belittle-ling [sic] their culture and heritage by singing a mock version of factory-produced songs and lyrics which, by their nature, are lightweight and have no longevity.
"You seem to be of the opinion that us Cornish folk are so desperate that we would happily make ourselves a laughing stock, so that a couple of simple-minded juveniles can sit on a couch and have a giggle at our expense – if that is the case, then shame on you."
A spokesman for Lee Collins' show insisted the idea for the band had been "meant to be tongue in cheek".
The Worzels have now been booked to appear on the programme instead, with the band telling The Sun newspaper that the matter "was just taking the mickey with a few ooh-arrs".










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by Greg Woods, St Day Cornwall
Wednesday, April 22 2009, 7:28PM
“If a single word is read by 1000 people, many will read a different word , white becomes green and blue becomes grey, read again, and you will see is all that I crave is a level playing field. right is right, and wrong is wrong whatever colour you paint it
Greg”
by Jimbob, Kernowtiki
Wednesday, April 22 2009, 2:04PM
“Whilst I commend you for bothering to reply Mr Woods, you seem to be contradicting yourself slightly.
You seem to think it was "fantastic" when comedians used to be able to make jokes about race, gender, sexual orientation and religion.
You do however seem to have an issue with people making fun of your accent.
You then go on to state that you will lighten up and accept this humour, but only on if racist, sexist, homophobic and religious humour is brought back as well, in some kind of politically incorrect free for all.
You seem to be suggesting that the making fun of your dialect is as serious a form of prejudice, as for example, the slave trade, or the civil rights movement in America, the suffragettes movement, and the prejudice that thousands of people suffer every day all over the world.
Political Correctness exists for a reason. Yes it can go overboard at times, but it's a small price to pay to help defeat some of the prejudices that exist in this world. It's just a shame when people like yourself use it as an excuse to hide.”
by Greg Woods, St Day Cornwall
Wednesday, April 22 2009, 11:57AM
“Greg Woods, The Cutlers of Cornwall, email greg@thecutlers.org.uk
My Right to Reply
What a turbulent week this has been, I start by saying that I did not state as the ¿Sun¿ suggests, that Justin Lee Collins was a racist, I was drawing attention to the fact that comedy has changed. In days gone by, fantastic comedians like Bob Monkhouse, Arthur Askey, etc could tell jokes about race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, perceived intellect, Mother in laws, wives, Essex girls, blondes soldiers sailors and seamen, the list was endless.
Nowadays, comedy has been redefined, gone are the comedians of the past, to be replaced by smug semi intellectuals who sit behind desks, or on leather sofa¿s who use sarcasm and snide wit as the tools of their trade, they have redefined smugness and labelled it as comedy.
This to me is the remit of programmes like, ¿have I got news for you¿ and ¿The Justin lee Collins show¿, Their subject matter is now quite small, they can pick on politicians, celebrities, People in the news, and ethnic groups from the likes of, The West Country, Birmingham, Sunderland, Glasgow.
After many years of humorous attacks, and despite the fact that much of the population of Ireland are intelligent hard working people, they have been labelled as a bit thick, despite the fact that many Muslims are peaceful people, they are all perceived to be potential terrorist¿s, I suspect, much to the delight of the Irish. Now that we are not allowed to tell jokes about either group, dialect is being used to define intelligence, and sarcasm is the weapon of attack.
If I had been asked to appear on national television to sing our own songs, I would have been delighted. Anyone who has seen us on stage would know that we love humour, and people laughing with us. But sadly this was not the intention of the Justin Lee Collins Show; they wanted us to sing Westlife songs in a manner that would allow Louis Walsh and the audience to laugh at us, the concept of this humour is still a form of racism, and would not have been good publicity for my band or for Cornwall.
I will lighten up, and accept that the West Country, Birmingham etc can be the subject of snide humour as long as it is accepted that we can all tell jokes about race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, perceived intellect, etc at least all will be fair in love and laughter.
Now as for the nationalist raves and chants, I despise ignorance, yet I must admit to being ignorant, what is Cornwall? We certainly were a country with a parliament. We pay a lot of money to Prince Charles because he feels that we are a Duchy, and many people think that we live in Cornwallshire, and are a shire county of England.
Who will stand up and prove once and for all what we are! I look forward to that day as will many others, please direct your answers to Gordon Brown MP, Prince Charles, and The Cornish Stannary Parliament
Another band will replace us on the show; hopefully Justin Lee Collins will be on his best behaviour and treat them well. Meanwhile the publicity we have attracted has boosted the sale of our CD¿s on Itunes and CD Baby, and our music is being played on ¿national and local radio¿ not quite the telly, but it will do. It is an ill wind that brings no good.
Yours sincerely
Greg Woods,
The Cutlers of Cornwall”
by Greg Woods, St Day Cornwall
Wednesday, April 22 2009, 11:50AM
“Greg Woods, The Cutlers of Cornwall, email greg@thecutlers.org.uk
My Right to Reply
What a turbulent week this has been, I start by saying that I did not state as the ¿Sun¿ suggests, that Justin Lee Collins was a racist, I was drawing attention to the fact that comedy has changed. In days gone by, fantastic comedians like Bob Monkhouse, Arthur Askey, etc could tell jokes about race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, perceived intellect, Mother in laws, wives, Essex girls, blondes soldiers sailors and seamen, the list was endless.
Nowadays, comedy has been redefined, gone are the comedians of the past, to be replaced by smug semi intellectuals who sit behind desks, or on leather sofa¿s who use sarcasm and snide wit as the tools of their trade, they have redefined smugness and labelled it as comedy.
This to me is the remit of programmes like, ¿have I got news for you¿ and ¿The Justin lee Collins show¿, Their subject matter is now quite small, they can pick on politicians, celebrities, People in the news, and ethnic groups from the likes of, The West Country, Birmingham, Sunderland, Glasgow.
After many years of humorous attacks, and despite the fact that much of the population of Ireland are intelligent hard working people, they have been labelled as a bit thick, despite the fact that many Muslims are peaceful people, they are all perceived to be potential terrorist¿s, I suspect, much to the delight of the Irish. Now that we are not allowed to tell jokes about either group, dialect is being used to define intelligence, and sarcasm is the weapon of attack.
If I had been asked to appear on national television to sing our own songs, I would have been delighted. Anyone who has seen us on stage would know that we love humour, and people laughing with us. But sadly this was not the intention of the Justin Lee Collins Show; they wanted us to sing Westlife songs in a manner that would allow Louis Walsh and the audience to laugh at us, the concept of this humour is still a form of racism, and would not have been good publicity for my band or for Cornwall.
I will lighten up, and accept that the West Country, Birmingham etc can be the subject of snide humour as long as it is accepted that we can all tell jokes about race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, perceived intellect, etc at least all will be fair in love and laughter.
Now as for the nationalist raves and chants, I despise ignorance, yet I must admit to being ignorant, what is Cornwall? We certainly were a country with a parliament. We pay a lot of money to Prince Charles because he feels that we are a Duchy, and many people think that we live in Cornwallshire, and are a shire county of England.
Who will stand up and prove once and for all what we are! I look forward to that day as will many others, please direct your answers to Gordon Brown MP, Prince Charles, and The Cornish Stannary Parliament
Another band will replace us on the show; hopefully Justin Lee Collins will be on his best behaviour and treat them well. Meanwhile the publicity we have attracted has boosted the sale of our CD¿s on Itunes and CD Baby, and our music is being played on ¿national and local radio¿ not quite the telly, but it will do. It is an ill wind that brings no good.
Yours sincerely
Greg Woods,
The Cutlers of Cornwall”
by Greg Woods, St Day, Cornwall
Wednesday, April 22 2009, 11:41AM
“Greg Woods, The Cutlers of Cornwall, 01209 822506, email greg@thecutlers.org.uk
My Right to Reply
What a turbulent week this has been, I start by saying that I did not state as the ¿Sun¿ suggests, that Justin Lee Collins was a racist, I was drawing attention to the fact that comedy has changed. In days gone by, fantastic comedians like Bob Monkhouse, Arthur Askey, etc could tell jokes about race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, perceived intellect, Mother in laws, wives, Essex girls, blondes soldiers sailors and seamen, the list was endless.
Nowadays, comedy has been redefined, gone are the comedians of the past, to be replaced by smug semi intellectuals who sit behind desks, or on leather sofa¿s who use sarcasm and snide wit as the tools of their trade, they have redefined smugness and labelled it as comedy.
This to me is the remit of programmes like, ¿have I got news for you¿ and ¿The Justin lee Collins show¿, Their subject matter is now quite small, they can pick on politicians, celebrities, People in the news, and ethnic groups from the likes of, The West Country, Birmingham, Sunderland, Glasgow.
After many years of humorous attacks, and despite the fact that much of the population of Ireland are intelligent hard working people, they have been labelled as a bit thick, despite the fact that many Muslims are peaceful people, they are all perceived to be potential terrorist¿s, I suspect, much to the delight of the Irish. Now that we are not allowed to tell jokes about either group, dialect is being used to define intelligence, and sarcasm is the weapon of attack.
If I had been asked to appear on national television to sing our own songs, I would have been delighted. Anyone who has seen us on stage would know that we love humour, and people laughing with us. But sadly this was not the intention of the Justin Lee Collins Show; they wanted us to sing Westlife songs in a manner that would allow Louis Walsh and the audience to laugh at us, the concept of this humour is still a form of racism, and would not have been good publicity for my band or for Cornwall.
I will lighten up, and accept that the West Country, Birmingham etc can be the subject of snide humour as long as it is accepted that we can all tell jokes about race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, perceived intellect, etc at least all will be fair in love and laughter.
Now as for the nationalist raves and chants, I despise ignorance, yet I must admit to being ignorant, what is Cornwall? We certainly were a country with a parliament. We pay a lot of money to Prince Charles because he feels that we are a Duchy, and many people think that we live in Cornwallshire, and are a shire county of England.
Who will stand up and prove once and for all what we are! I look forward to that day as will many others, please direct your answers to Gordon Brown MP, Prince Charles, and The Cornish Stannary Parliament
Another band will replace us on the show; hopefully Justin Lee Collins will be on his best behaviour and treat them well. Meanwhile the publicity we have attracted has boosted the sale of our CD¿s on Itunes and CD Baby, and our music is being played on ¿national and local radio¿ not quite the telly, but it will do. It is an ill wind that brings no good.
Yours sincerely
Greg Woods,
The Cutlers of Cornwall”
by Mark Joslin, Jahmaker...
Tuesday, April 21 2009, 9:54PM
“Congratulations sir! These kind of Asalam alaikum, I am Jah Learies Fiveskin Ardvark of Magnetism 'e-males' can only lead to a hunk more quite outstanding trouble in the future.”
by Noddy Holder, Pointing out the Hypocrisy
Tuesday, April 21 2009, 9:09AM
“"To me this is as racist as telling a joke about an Irishman or a Muslim.
"Cornwall is a proud Celtic nation with a proud heritage. We were trading with Mediterranean states 4,000 years ago, when upcountry people were still wondering what a mud hut looked like."
So it's only racism if it's about the Cornish then.
Or are you trying to fight racism by being racist?
Mote/Beam”
by Joe Cornish, St Just in Roseland
Tuesday, April 21 2009, 9:03AM
“I wonder how many complaints JLC will get off the Irish when they hear an Irish band being mimiced by a group doing "Wurzell" accents?
"None" is the figure that leaps to mind, as they are a mature society. It's a sign of mature society, the ability to laugh at oneself.
On the other hand, those who need to leap up and attack a foolish little joke, about an unremarakable and unfounded "stereotype" cannot be at all secure in their beliefs.”
by Miss Anne Thorpe, Erehwon
Tuesday, April 21 2009, 8:46AM
“There seems to be a small bunch of parochial misfits who have taken it on themselves to take offense at the slightest thing on behalf of Cornwall.
I do hope that those in the wider world realises that these no-hopers represent no one other than themselves.”
by Harwood, Redruth
Tuesday, April 21 2009, 7:58AM
“I am Cornish through and through, and like Christopher Jordan am not offended by Doc Martin. In fact, I rather like the programme. What does offend me - or rather gets up my nose - are people from Cockneyland, and such like, who think they know it all but, come down to it, know very little.”