Pressure grows on council leader as row over privatisation plan intensifies

“I was going to respond to you Trevorrow with a nice list for you, but if you have ever been in management then you would know the things that are needed. Instead we have a one trick pony selling the council off and letting Mr Robertson be the fall guy, even though he shouldn't have backed Lavery in the first place.

You are yet another person that is avoiding the question about whether you are happy with the way your taxes are spent by national government on an international playing field, sending our forces in to steal land and install democracy their way so the land and resource rights go to multinationals leaving no benefit for either the locals or us that are paying for them to get what they want.”

“Phil where will these cuts fall?
Commonsense says efficiency will be achieved by staff cuts....failing that service has to be trimmed to the bare essentials.
You assume savings will be made through better management of resource alone.
Why is that not already the case?”

“Voted out, 63 for, 49 against, bye bye and let us have someone who can trim Cornwall council to run more efficiently and has the respect of fellow councillors to listen to them and not call them thick in.”

“Another one for you trevorrow, I take it that being "middle class" you are vulgarised!!!


"Our inequality materializes our upper class, vulgarizes our middle class, brutalizes our lower class."

- Matthew Arnold”

“I actually agree with some of what GH and Raggy say...in a well run company the benefits of increased performance or efficiency should be passed down to the shop floor not just up to the owners. It creates a virtuous circle of willingness to go that extra bit for the company ....this model is impossible to deliver within a state owned and managed enviroment because there is never an incentive to live within budgets or create a surplus that can pay for increased workers benefits.
In the state managed enviroment any surpus is returned to another dept or just squandered on a non productive folly in order to keep the departments budget as high as possible at the next spending review.”

“Funny you should say that Gurnards_Head, friends I have on the frontline in other councils are appalled at the way the managers never pay any attention to the issues they raise, it is why I suggested in one of the first discussions about Mr Robertson that he and Lavery should be talking to them, instead of the managers, because it is only them that know what is going on while the managers (not all but most) are only trying to do what managers do in any business and brown nose with ideas that would never work.

In all the places I have managed over the years (not wanting the job btw) I have always talked to the people that do the cleaning, deal with the customers first, and like you have said, I have then culled the managers who did not have the interests of the company at heart, they are easy to spot as they are always the ones that blame someone else and cannot take on responsibility for any mistakes, or even their own actions.”

“A thought especially for you trevorrow!

"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly. The rich have always objected to being governed at all."

- G.K.Chesterton”

“@h-trehorrible

Real advert - 3 days ago

Cornwall Council 5 reviews - Bodmin - +1 location
This will be in a Cornwall Council establishment which includes schools, offices and libraries. You can apply for this job by visiting ig29.i-grasp.com/fe/tpl... £6.19 - £6.42 an hour

Minimum wage at age 21 - £6.19

These are the gravy train unionised workers eh! If you were any less informed you could probably be chancellor of the exchequer. I know their is no point in arguing you as you decided not to have any original thoughts a long time ago.”

“Congratulations ackedoff you have summed up comrade trevorrow so well, belicose, intolerant, rude, aggressive doesnt even begin to describe her.

There is too wide a gulf between the haves and have nots at Lys Kernow the very highly paid senior officers and well paid managers are not producing the results commensurate with their positions while the minions exist on basic wages in a climate of extreme uncertainty and fear.

This focus on self interst at the top does not create the conditions for a happy well run ship.

I am appalled at the wastage on consultants and agency staff throughout the public sector which clearly illustrates the institutionalised managerial inneficiency that is deeply embedded in the culture which is why we are where we currently are.

As I previously said what is needed is a ruthless purge, a cull of the deadwood at the top of the tree, there has never been a more opportune moment given the current state of the jobs market it ought to be possible to recruit a new dynamic effective management team from the LOCAL private sector.

As for the councillors they must sort themselves out, not an easy task given the treachery and perfidious tendencies of the political animals involved, much of the blame for this must lie with a comatose disengaged electorate who largely did not bother to interrogate candidates or even vote.

Basically they have got what they deserve and now they do not like it.

Trevorrow your point about the previous "socialist" government is a total red herring insofar the criminal gang of Blair, Brown and Mandelson were closet tories who perpetrated the biggest con trick of all time on the British people by aiding and abetting the very worst examples of crooked sleazy corpratism that now holds us all to ransom.

We are still paying for Browns crass incompetence as a profligate Chancellor and the worst PM ever while Blair is too arrogant to understand how deeply so many despise him and Mandelson has slithered back under the rock from which he emerged, reptiles to a man.”

“H-Trevorrow! I've come to the conclusion that your as arrogant and misguided at Mr Robertson........unionised cleaners living the like of Riley indeed!!...........try living that life on minimum wage!
As has often been repeated on this thread the "rebel" councilors and what now appears to be a good percentage of the electorate are fed up with the un-democratic way our county is run never mind any joint venture projects.......this thread runs deep in most of the council employees ive spoken too as well.........they are fed up with cuts, constant change, useless managers and double standards set by the senior management team..........
how difficult is it to understand that this administration needs to go to regain any confidence the people of Cornwall had in the council and its leaders”