“:| And even 'their' weight Chris.”

“:| @John Dale, Truro

Why do you think we don't have 'heterosexual pride discos' in the countryside either John Dale. . Do you really think it's because we don't understand? . I suggest to you that people who live close to nature and the land have a far, far greater understanding of nature's variations in new-born life, than you anti-Christian bigots ever will. . But we just don't spend our lives talking about it.

And Chris, I WILL DISCRIMINATE against, liars, cheats, thieves, itinerants, people who sneak around after dark; and people from the city who think they can move out to the country and start throwing there weight around. . Are you understanding me?”

“@Harry
Perhaps Jason Hudson ought to reply to my post first?

It appears to be as an erroneous sensationalised article based on a friendly chat he had about a licence at the MMI?
You appear determined to be offended.
But it's ok for you, in your self righteousness, to offend Carrie's beliefs as FAIRY STORIES, it's OK for your cohorts to speak about the WARPED WORLD OF CHRISTIANITY or refer to them as FASCISTS and BUMPKINS.
If I used the same phraseology
and refered to the verbal offence and bullying of ****fascists (incitement to religious hatred is also an offence!) you'd report my comment!
You are a hypocrite using your sexuality as a trump card.”

“Mark: sadly I am not trolling. I do genuinely feel that people like me who are privileged to have a position in life that is free from discrimination should help those who may not be so fortunate. That includes taking people up on the apparently homophobic language.

No-one is bothered about a refusal solely on the grounds of a late licence. But Ms Brown could not it seems stop at that. I would still like to know fromher whether she made the remarks the paper claims she made or not. I do not agree with you that it is fair enough that we should not offend Christians by exercising our perfect right to party on GF; in any event. Christians' rights are to celebrate the day however they please - sackcloth and ashes and self-flagellation if they are so inclined. But their rights do not extend to telling other people how to conduct their lives and Ms Brown appears to think that they do. I do sincerely hope she tells us, maybe through her son, whether she did say the words she is quoted as saying or not. If she did, what she said was inappropriate for official administering a public resource. If she did not then the newspaper has maligned her.

As to the word "family", you may not be aware that the words "family values" are code for for discriminatory treatment of LGBT people.

I would not personally be so concerned about this if, as I say, the West Country did not have "previous" on anti-gay discrimination.

May I suggest a sensible way for resolving this:-

1 Ms Brown releases to the public the "statement" she made to the paper; and maybe...

2. She consider accepting some diversity training, which help her not offend people (all people, not just Christians) in future.”

“C'mon Harry you're trolling at the very least - at the worst you're being nasty towards Mrs. B. I'm a hetero atheist who is sick of the constant bullying of gay / bi / who cares people. I think religion is a bunch of toss - but so long as they don't burn me, blow me up or abuse me they can carry on. Mrs. B. merely objected to it on the grounds of it going on until 4 am. I have a family - my other half, pets not kids and I don't want them. The term "family" is not homophobic. Its means those you care about and love. The religious sensibilities mean they don't want people partying until 4 am on the day that they believe some bloke was nailed up for saying how nice it would be if we were all nice to each other. Fair enough. Some of my best friends are Christians. Shame on the WB for its reporting though.”

“Matthew B: I do urge you to suggest to your mother that she ask the newspaper to correct the alleged statement she made about Christians, family-centred, etc. (I do hope as a bi-sexual person you understand how LGBT people take offence at such remarks). It's in everyone's interests to get the facts straight. Let's wait until Monday if that is what it takes.

Carrie: 3 points to offer you for your consideration.

1 I am sorry that you had problems and hope that you are now over them. Religion won't cure them by the way.

2. No-one is suggesting that if Mrs Brown turned down all discos which wanted a late licence, gay or straight, she would be contravening the law. She added a "statement" allegedly given to the press (please RFTA yourself!) which made somecomments which AT THE VERY LEAST indicated bias in favour of one religion and on their ordinary meaning ("family centred") were highly offensive to LGBT people. She needs to retract, or clarify what she meant. The victim has three months to make a claim, I think, although it is a civil not a criminal matter.

3. You are entitled to have your own beliefs about Good Friday but the day when such beliefs (along with other derivative fairy tales such as virgin births, resurrections, ascensions and the like) were considered the norm has long since passed In other words you can spend your day in church if you want but as an agnostic and functional atheist (like the overwhelming majority of the British population) I have the right to ignore your beliefs and party on! And this institute and its staff might care to reflect that just as they are obliged not to discriminate on the grounds of sexual orientation in making their facilities available they are also obliged not to discriminate on the grounds of religion or belief - which includes lack thereof!


More generally, it does seem that there are too many cases of suspected sexual orientation discrimination originating from the West Country. The last one was the hotel owners in Marazion who are so far in the dark ages that they refuse double beds to married gay couples (the case against them is pending I believe) ; and then there was of course the Earl of Devon who didn't want his castle polluted with gay weddings, as a result of which and quite rightly he can't hold any sort of wedding!”

“@Editor
In my opinion, I am not convinced that this is any more than a story about a late licence not being available and the location was therefore unsuitable, but it receives front page headlines on the West Briton.
However, Mr. Hudson has had a lot of publicity for his event.
Many religious people and residents have been offended by the comments and religion is undermined yet again.
And this is ok?
If I had used the same comments against 'gay pride', I'd be banned from the blogs and liable to prosecution.

In general, in many aspects of life, 'Common purpose' and political correctness are biased towards undermining established values such as Christianity which is why the 'Manhattan Declaration' was drafted.
I feel that this might be a case for the press complaints commission.”

“@Jason Hudson
'In a statement, the MMI chairman Dawn Brown said the hall did not have a late licence and was in a built-up area, making it unsuitable for a late night dance event.'

Were you not aware that a licence beyond 11p.m. was a non starter for any group?
(you allegedly wanted a licence until pref. 4a.m.)
Did anyone at the MMI offend or discriminate against you or state that a third party (ie. Christian residents) would be offended?
Is this in reality actually a 'non story' about a friendly conversation you had at the MMI discussing the licence application?”

“@Jason Hudson
'In a statement, the MMI chairman Dawn Brown said the hall did not have a late licence and was in a built-up area, making it unsuitable for a late night dance event.'

Were you not aware that a licence beyond 11p.m. was a non starter for any group?
(you allegedly wanted a licence until pref. 4a.m.)
Did anyone at the MMI offend or discriminate against you or state that a third party (ie. Christian residents) would be offended?
Having read the replies on 'thisiscornwall' is this actually a 'non story' about a friendly conversation you had at the MMI discussing the licence application?”

“It even says in the article that the hall didn't have a late license so they'd have to close at 11 otherwise they risk losing the license and then no one will benefit.

Guess a lot of the people who left accusatory comments didn't RTFA.”