“Materially, Cornish people had little in life, but the most important thing they had was their creativity, the will to improve their lot in life.

In these present times of austerity, it is important that we keep our confidence up, so celebrating St. Piran's Day is incredibly important. We will survive through our creativity, by using what is within us and costs nothing. We will invent and create NEW ways of survival , which is what we have ALWAYS done and history proves it WORKS.

In the latest Census, Cornish people have shown themselves to be present all over the UK and more school children identified themselves as Cornish in this year's PLASC survey, Junior section. This augurs well. We also remember today all those people throughout the world who had to leave Kernow to earn a crust of bread and took their skills worldwide. Their descendants remain in the Diaspora, but their homes will be forever Cornish. To you all, wherever you live, "Be Proud to be Cornish; stand up and be counted."

I wish you all a very Happy St.Pirantide, enjoy all these events happening throughout Kernow and in the Diaspora, in memory of our much loved saint. Make sure our children know about St.Piran and how we celebrate his life every year and that Kernow is a unique and special place, one that we cherish and must keep safe for future generations, the inheritors of our Earth.

Dy'Goel Sen Peran Da dhywgh-hwi oll arta, Kernow bys vykken.”

“WELL SAID GRAND BARD!”

“"But most importantly, St. Piran was a man who had values. He stuck to what he believed to be right and was prepared to die for his beliefs. He connected well with everyone, earning their respect. He was courteous, self-effacing, witty, inventive and thoughtful for other people, community minded. In these respects, he is a good role model for Cornish children."

Pure fantasy. Nothing is known of the Irish Saint, and as for his personal traits, these are all imaginings of a few hippies/fantasists/fantastics.”

“Even the St Piran Trust states;

"No one can state for sure who St Piran was, we can only sift for clues in documents written many years after his time"

SO how the Grand Bard can attribute all these lovely personal traits to him is at best, romantic imagination, at worse deliberate obfuscation.

The Grand Bard should be a better role model to Cornish kids.”

“See my email to the Gorsedh drawing their attention to your bigoted remarks on another thread Big_Ger.”

“I saw it, I had a very god chuckle at it, thank you.

Can you show any evidence that we knowo what sort of a person Piran was?

Nope, thought not.”

“Of course not, BG, they much prefer fiction and/or conjecture.”

“Let's just hope the Bard comes clean on this, I'd lose a lot of respect for her if she did not.”

“No reply yet then? Funny....”

“I don't suppose the Gorsedh would respond that quickly Big_Ger. You're not that important but you are funny.

Meanwhile, boting Taxman's idiocy, here are some examples of his 'child abuse' over Piran tide.

http://tinyurl.com/b5cgqq7”

“Oh, I don't suppose the Grand Bard will answer at all Trurionian, her position is indefensible.

Though the irony of a "Grand Bard" holding up some one who we know little or nothing about as , and I quote, "good role model for Cornish children", is delicious.

Just goes to shwo what a fantasy world some live in.”

“Oh, I don't suppose the Grand Bard will answer at all Trurionian, her position is indefensible.

Though the irony of a "Grand Bard" holding up some one who we know little or nothing about as , and I quote, "good role model for Cornish children", is delicious.

Just goes to show what a fantasy world some live in.”

“I would rather believe in what the Grand Bard says as the nonsense bigots on here come out with.”

“If you would rather believe in fantasy, that's your prerogative Thomas.”

“Are you calling my spiritual and religious beliefs 'fantasy' Big_Ger? Are you mocking my religious beliefs?”

“Are the horses (sp) a religion now?”

“Oops horses should have read as gorseth”

“I believe what the Grand Bard says about a Holy Saint. I ask again. Are you Big_Ger and now st-fetishist mocking my religious beliefs?”

“Just to clarify .... You believe what exactly?”

“I believe what the Grand Bard says about a Holy Saint. I ask again. Are you Big_Ger and now st-fetishist mocking my religious beliefs?"”

“Too vague .Try again.”

“Am I not worthy of capital letters Thomas.
:[”

“Reading your postings, I don't believe you are worth of much at all are you 'st-fetishist'?”

“I see the Grand Bard's embarrassing statement is still being promoted on this website. I'm sure she wouldn't want it so.”

“For the final time of asking and I allow you this one last chance to answer, I believe what the Grand Bard says about a Holy Saint. I ask again. Are you Big_Ger and now st-fetishist mocking my religious beliefs?”

“No I am stating what I believe to be facts. Just because someone has a different view to you doesn't mean they are not entiteld to it.”

“By at least the 13th century, he had become identified with the Irish Saint Ciarán of Saighir who founded the monastery at Seir-Kieran (Saighir) in County Offaly

Charles Plummer suggested that Piran might, be identified with Saint Ciarán of Clonmacnoise.

Joseph Loth, moreover, has argued, on detailed philological grounds, that the two names could not possibly be identical.

G. H. Doble thought that Piran was a Welshman from Glamorgan, citing the lost chapel once dedicated to him in Cardiff.

The St Piran Trust has undertaken research which has led them to the conclusion that Saint Piran was indeed Saint Ciarán of Saighir or perhaps a disciple, as indicated by Dr James Brennan of Kilkenny and Dr T. F. G. Dexter, whose thesis is held in the Royal Cornwall Museum.

http://tinyurl.com/bhxu3gq



So the St Piran Trust are unsure of who he is, al the expert historians disagree, yet the Grand Bard claims to know he had all these wonderful personal aspects.

How?

And why did she forget to mention he kept a pet fox and badger! Surely that is a good example to kids.”

“by ThomasFlamankFriday, March 08 2013, 9:58PM
"For the final time of asking and I allow you this one last chance"

Thank god for that,”