How the hunts cover up their crimes
A second article in seven days in the WMN suggests the Hunting Act has been a failure. The reason for this may be that the police require a very high level of proof that an offence has been committed before they will prosecute. The hunts do all they can to prevent such evidence being gathered.
Earlier this year I watched as hounds were put into some woodland. They were not following a trail but soon picked up the scent of a fox and pursued the fox until it ran out of the woods on to the road, where they killed it. I watched the kennel man pick up the fox and throw it into his pick-up.
I photographed the fox in the truck. I met the man and accused him of illegal hunting and said I was going to take his photo, whereupon two men set upon me and tried to take the camera from me. The police were sympathetic but as I had not seen the fox actually being chased by the hounds they said they did not have a good enough case to take to court. As the two men said I had attacked them and the three witnesses did not see the offence, the police would not take the assault to court either. Then there was a case in March when the whipper-in of a foxhounds pack attacked a League Against Cruel Sports supporter, pushing him with his horse, beating him with the handle of his whip (causing lacerations), pinning him to the ground and stealing his camcorder. For this savage attack the whipper-in got a conditional discharge. Anywhere else this man would have been sent to prison for robbery with violence. And why did he steal the camcorder? To prevent the gathering of evidence that he was breaking the law.
Hunting diminishes the UK's stand against cruelty to animals the world over: bull fighting, the slaughter of seal pups in Canada and the breeding of animals around the world for their fur. We have put our house in order, now the law needs to be obeyed. I for one welcome the announcement that the League is going to spend money to help put a stop to this cruelty.
A disembowelled fox was hung on the fence not half a mile from the scene of the assault against me.
These criminals are not only flouting the law they are flaunting their breaking of it.








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by avengingangel
Wednesday, November 16 2011, 3:20PM
“@Giles Bradshaw . . . The police did not see the fox being chased . . . so basically they take the hunt's word for it. Covert filming techniques have been used for this and other animal abuse events but have been dismissed as inadmissable evidence in the past . . . How would you suggest that evidence of law breaking is gathered then?”
by avengingangel
Wednesday, November 16 2011, 2:56PM
“If they say that they are just drag hunting, let them prove it and muzzle the hounds . . . then there would be no "accidents".”
by Hareymary
Wednesday, November 16 2011, 2:39PM
“How can it be a failure; if the hunts say that they are not breaking the law (wash their lying mouths out with bleach), there are no prosecutions because they are not breaking the law so there's no need. Actually, it's because the sabs are doing such a great job in preventing them from doing too much 'actual' hunting.”
by Hareymary
Wednesday, November 16 2011, 2:39PM
“How can it be a failure; if the hunts say that they are not breaking the law (wash their lying mouths out with bleach), there are no prosecutions because they are not breaking the law so there's no need. Actually, it's because the sabs are doing such a great job in preventing them from doing too much 'actual' hunting.”
by 2ladybugs
Wednesday, November 16 2011, 12:14PM
“@avengingangel
Yes a law unto themselves.
Name calling, now let me think, if my memory serves me correctly, brainless, idiot, richard-head,bunny hugger, tree hugger shall I go on. You know what they saying is "sticks and stones etc.
Assault needs to be recorded and with a witness.
I have found the best time to upset the hunt (if you know where they are starting from) is before they go out. Providing you do it correctly they won't get the scent of many foxes.
Thankfully I tend to merge in quite well with the followers and can talk the talk and walk the walk if you get my drift.
We are just going to have to be patient with this little problem.
Until the hounds are trained not to hunt foxes there will be a problem with them catching and killing foxes as with any animal that packs. The drag hunting could work quite well apart from that small obstacle.
Foxes can be killed humanely if they are causing problems to farmers.”
by avengingangel
Wednesday, November 16 2011, 11:41AM
“I used to live in Cheshire - one day the hunt came right into the centre of our village trampling everything under their path. A mum with a baby in a pushchair was coming out of the post office was almost trampled by a horse, whose rider clearly had no control over his animal. I pulled mum and baby out of the horse's path, yelling at the rider as I did so. I was thanked with a lash from his crop. Would he rather have been responsible for the injury or possibly death of a woman and child, than to be called an idiot?
Last year, outside a country pub, a large group of hunters gathered and were soon joined by two men on quad bikes. The bikes had large boxes on the back which upon closer inspection contained a number of live foxes. A discussion ensued, with the hunters telling the quad bike men to move off and they would follow in 5 minutes. We asked politely and courteously what was happening (although we had a pretty good idea) and were greeted with a barrage of abuse and foul language from those involved.
These people have no regard for those who do not share their bloodlust and utter contempt for any who vocally oppose them . . just as they show contempt for the law which they seem to believe does not apply to them. They continue to break and flout the law every day. The ban must be reinforced and the punishment for breaking it far more severe.”
by avengingangel
Wednesday, November 16 2011, 11:23AM
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by 2ladybugs
Wednesday, November 16 2011, 11:12AM
“@Auntiecon
Forgot something - yes I saw that one about the birds of prey. They must think we are all thick.
I don't think I have seen any eagles around here of late!!!!”
by 2ladybugs
Wednesday, November 16 2011, 11:08AM
“@Auntiecon
As I have said before in others reports, the laws in this country are to say in the least naff. It appears that whatever the crime is you can virtually get away with it. The hunting law unfortunately is no different. We can only hope that with vigilance these people will be brought to book but I fear it will be a long uphill struggle. The hunting law as it stands needs tightening up as there are small loopholes in it.”
by Auntiecon
Wednesday, November 16 2011, 10:48AM
“The hunt participants are cocking a snook at the law and bragging about it. They have found ways around the law and they are blatantly using them. One scam they are playing is taking out a bird of prey in the pretence that they are using it to hunt with - this is absolute lies. Unless the bird is a very large one it is unlikely to catch a fox or even be interested in doing so. (I would very much like to see film of this happening but you can bet your life there isn't any.) Even if it caught one it would not let go until it had eaten it or carried it off. It is highly unlikely this would happen with a well-cared for bird of prey. Additionally the Hawk Board have already stated they are against this practice as it could be dangerous and furthemore they feel it would bring their sport into disrepute. Sadly, the hunters in their arrogance have completely ignored this advice from the experts and continue to hide behind this facade of respectability and break the law.
Another scam the hunters play is the'accidental' chasing of the fox when the hounds pick up a real fox scent and not the 'trail scent'. It is extremely difficult if impossible to prove that it was not an accident and these law-breaking criminals know it and therefore use it as a cover for real hunting. I'm afraid it boils down to being able to prove they are deliberately hunting and breaking the law and they know it - this is the reason there are monitors with camcorders out there - to prove they are illegally hunting. And of course, the hunts often become aggressive and violent because their day's fun has been spoilt!!”